COLUMN BUILDING SCIENCES issue with sand layers under concrete slabs becoming saturated with water and unable to dry down. The initial tile setting using modified thin set works as the thin set can dry downwards into the concrete slab if the slab is not excessively wet. We get a bond. But over time as the sand layer attempts to dry upwards the thin set to tile interface becomes saturated and we lose the bond due to the hydrolysis reaction. How does all this apply to thin "real" stone and thin manufactured stone veneer failures? Both thin "real" stone and thin "manufactured" stone veneer failures are occurring because the polymer modified thin set mortar bond is failing due to a hydrolysis reaction due to high alkalinity driven by water being concentrated at the mortar to stone or mortar to manufactured stone veneer interface. More rainwater exposure, more risk. The water cannot dry or redistribute itself into the "real" stone because the stone is relatively impermeable. The water cannot dry or redistribute itself into the "manufactured" stone veneer because the manufactured stone is back-coated ("sealed") to prevent excessive water absorption out of the thin set. The issue is desiccation of the polymer modified thin set mortar leading to not establishing a bond.# So a "porous" not real stone is made to behave like a non-porous real stone with the back-coating (Photo 9). Much redistribution also cannot occur inward with both the thin real stone and the thin PHOTO 7 Floor Tile. Installation over an impermeable anti-fracture membrane must be done with unmodified thin set. Evaporation or drying cannot occur downward into the concrete slab through the antifracture membrane. Since tiles are also waterproof and vapor closed evaporation or drying cannot occur upwards through the tile. No evaporation. Therefore, only unmodified thin set can be used. If a modified thin set is used, a full bond does not occur. manufactured stone veneer because of the change to OSB sheathing (much lower inward vapor transmission) and a lack of drainage or the use of rigid insulation (no inward vapor transmission) and a lack of drainage. So why the bond failure predominately at the veneer to thin set interface and not a bond failure at the thin set to stucco interface? The veneer to thin set interface is wetter and stays wetter longer than the thin set to stucco interface. The stucco is more absorptive than both the thin stone veneer and the manufactured stone veneer and some inward redistribution occurs. We got more inward redistribution when we had plywood sheathing and gypsum sheathing rather than OSB and foam sheathing. So we get a weak bond or a failed bond or we never got a bond at the thin set to veneer interface. But what "pushes" to stone off the wall? Osmosis (Figure 2). Yup. We get it in PHOTO 8 Tile in Shower. Installation of tile over an impermeable waterproof membrane must be done with unmodified mortar. Evaporation cannot occur through the waterproof membrane into the tile backer board and evaporation cannot occur outwards through the shower tile into the shower area. Therefore, only unmodified thin set can be used. If a modified thin set is used, a full bond does not occur. PHOTO 9 Coating on Back of Manufactured Stone Veneer. Manufactured stone is back-coated ("sealed") to prevent excessive water absorption out of the thin set. The issue is desiccation of the polymer modified thin set mortar leading to not establishing a bond. So a "porous" not real stone is made to behave like a non-porous real stone with the back-coating. #Back in the day, bricklayers would dip the bottom surface of bricks into a pan of water before placing the bricks on a mortar bed. This was to prevent the "kiln-dried" brick from sucking too much water out of the mortar bed-desiccating the mortar bed-resulting in a cold joint rather than a chemical bond. Ah, the old days. When was the last time you saw this happen on a job site? O C T O B E R 2 0 19 ashrae.org ASHRAE JOURNAL 73https://www.ashrae.org